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. >> hundreds attended a funeral in germany or an exchange student killed. 17-year-old student was killed after a home owner caught the teen in his garage. u.s. has been criticised for gun laws. the map pleaded not guilty to a charm of delivered homicide. >>> an investigation reveals veterans administration record have been falsified. clrks were instructed to lie, and it appeared that the clinics staff were seeing patients within 14 days of the request as the agency requires. many waited months. >>> the city of new orleans has been facing blight since hurricane katrina, which destroyed many homes. as jonathan martin reports, it's leading a charge to turn neighbourhoods around. >> the run down homes across new orleans has been linked to poverty. >> there's thousands of blighted structures, with the x on the door from when the search crews came through. >> considered a blighted city after the 2005 hur day, new orleans is putting a noticeable department in its ugly problem. >> this lot was overyoep. >> the -- overgrown. >> the crumb bling home next to zack miller was torn down and neighbours
. >> hundreds attended a funeral in germany or an exchange student killed. 17-year-old student was killed after a home owner caught the teen in his garage. u.s. has been criticised for gun laws. the map pleaded not guilty to a charm of delivered homicide. >>> an investigation reveals veterans administration record have been falsified. clrks were instructed to lie, and it appeared that the clinics staff were seeing patients within 14 days of the request as the agency requires....
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. >>> a memorial was held in germany for an exchange student killed. a 17-year-old was shot to death after the teen was caught in a garage. german officials and the family criticised the u.s. over gun laws. >>> hundreds of demonstrators rallied in north carolina to demand a change in immigration policy. [ chants ] . >> they called on the obama administration to curb its aggressive approach to deportation saying it devids families -- divides families, leaving children behind when one our two parents are deported. the president called for a review of deportation policies. >>> in al jazeera's groundbreaking series "borderland", six americans are making a dangerous journey retracing the footsteps of migrants that died trying to get to the u.s. the series wraps up tonight with a look at how they fared into the desert. >> two hours in the height. she is feeling the strain. >> it's tough, it's hot. i think i overpacked. i don't think people can do this for long. you have to be so careful. the rocks are slippery. there's no flat land. have you to be careful. y
. >>> a memorial was held in germany for an exchange student killed. a 17-year-old was shot to death after the teen was caught in a garage. german officials and the family criticised the u.s. over gun laws. >>> hundreds of demonstrators rallied in north carolina to demand a change in immigration policy. [ chants ] . >> they called on the obama administration to curb its aggressive approach to deportation saying it devids families -- divides families, leaving children...
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., president obama, germany, chancellor angela merkel who said collectively that russia could face more sanctions if ukraine is not stabilized later on in may. sanctions don't seem to be working. >> first of all, i don't think sanctions are going to work for the short-term crisis. maybe in the long term, if you want to further impoversh it may work but for the short term it's not going to work and the moral of the sanctions is the more we push them, the more we get push back from the europeans and they have a different view of us. the one thing we have going for us throughout the crisis is that the u.s. and jurp have been very much together on it. >> ambassador christopher hill, appreciate your insight. thank you. >> thank you. >> we're going to talk about the scandal and nba. donald sterling's wife is speaking out. humans. we are beautifully imperfect creatures living in an imperfect world. that's why liberty mutual insurance has your back, offering exclusive products like optional better car replacement, where if your car is totaled, we give you the money to buy one a model year newer
., president obama, germany, chancellor angela merkel who said collectively that russia could face more sanctions if ukraine is not stabilized later on in may. sanctions don't seem to be working. >> first of all, i don't think sanctions are going to work for the short-term crisis. maybe in the long term, if you want to further impoversh it may work but for the short term it's not going to work and the moral of the sanctions is the more we push them, the more we get push back from the...
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you know, when you go to germany and australia and brazil, especially brazil, and then india, you see these developing countries and they're developing in one particular area, in education and technology, and then when you come to america, you see this like -- we grow, but the citizens aren't growing, right? our colleges are still the best colleges, but the people in the neighborhood i come from aren't trying to go to mit. they're not thinking of stanford or harvard. people from india come to attend these colleges and then they get educated and go to their country and create jobs in their developing countries. when you travel the world, you get to see like the country you are from and how we are developing or not. >> and also embroiled in these kind of debates as opposed to addressing those things you're talking about. >> and then you look at like this industrial prison complex where half of -- actually the majority of people in prison are african and latino, african-american and latino. it's like -- that breaks my heart, right. why? >> well, i think to your point about, you know, bei
you know, when you go to germany and australia and brazil, especially brazil, and then india, you see these developing countries and they're developing in one particular area, in education and technology, and then when you come to america, you see this like -- we grow, but the citizens aren't growing, right? our colleges are still the best colleges, but the people in the neighborhood i come from aren't trying to go to mit. they're not thinking of stanford or harvard. people from india come to...
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because the perception has been that germany, which has a lot of trade with russia, and particularly dependence on energy, on oil and gas, would not support sectoral sanctions at this point. >> well, she said she talked about how she's trying to move other countries in europe along. i mean, there are -- >> well, i think her country is -- or at least she is closer to this, and she did stand in unity with president obama talking about this. there does have to be an off ramp to de-escalate this. i don't think we hoos to get in a war with russia. we have to bolster nato. that's something they talked about too. we have to find a way to achieve a pluralist, noncorrupt government in ukraine through these elections, and we have to support trade. at least i think so. this trade regime of the u.s. and europe. >> what makes you think that putin wants -- >> putin personally, certainly the information everybody seems to have is that there is no advantage to russia in having an all-out war in ukraine. our leverage is or economy against him. we are strong. he is a gas station with a lot of corrupti
because the perception has been that germany, which has a lot of trade with russia, and particularly dependence on energy, on oil and gas, would not support sectoral sanctions at this point. >> well, she said she talked about how she's trying to move other countries in europe along. i mean, there are -- >> well, i think her country is -- or at least she is closer to this, and she did stand in unity with president obama talking about this. there does have to be an off ramp to...
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. >> to the operations center in germany. you were in the room. >> yes. >> you were able to see, hear, feel, understand what was going on in that room? >> we worked toward understanding, yes, sir. >> were you ever interviewed by the accountability review board? >> no, sir. >> your primary responsibility was to try -- "africom j-2 was focused on attribution, that attacks became attributable very soon after the event." what do you believe they were attributable to? >> an islamist extremist group. >> al qaeda? >> we felt it was [indiscernible] >> affiliated with al qaeda. >> yes. >> aq, were they involved? >> [indiscernible] >> how quickly did you come to the conclusion that you believed there were al qaeda affiliates or al qaeda themselves involved engaged in the attack? >> very soon, in the early hours of the activity. >> was it a video? >> no, sir. >> did it spark a protest? >> no, sir. >> i want to get the facts at the time. the cia station chief is quoted as saying, "not not an escalation protest." would you agree or disagr
. >> to the operations center in germany. you were in the room. >> yes. >> you were able to see, hear, feel, understand what was going on in that room? >> we worked toward understanding, yes, sir. >> were you ever interviewed by the accountability review board? >> no, sir. >> your primary responsibility was to try -- "africom j-2 was focused on attribution, that attacks became attributable very soon after the event." what do you believe they...
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. >> nearly 1930s george was a fearless modern artist in germany until his art was denounced as degenerate. >> didn't have to be jewish to be disliked. enemy of the state that meant that he launch lost his bank account, took everything. >> when adolph hitler declared ward on modern art ahead on "sunday morning." >> kevin spacey is revered star of stage, screen and internet. he has been shaking things up in portrayal of a schemer who turns the white house in to a house of cards. talking with anthony mason. >> you discussed this with no one. >> as cover winning actor kevin spacey took a huge risk starring in "house of cards" on netflix. >> people thought they were nuts. >> you obviously didn't. >> i didn't think so. >> his ruthless politician, frank underwood, has become a favorite even in washington. >> bill clinton said, i always wanted to be in your profession. >> a conversation with kevin spacey, ahead on "sunday morning." >> osgood: martha teichner meets the creators of freakonomics. steve hartman has a chat with a big tipper. dismisses hopes for dinosaur revival and more. first headlin
. >> nearly 1930s george was a fearless modern artist in germany until his art was denounced as degenerate. >> didn't have to be jewish to be disliked. enemy of the state that meant that he launch lost his bank account, took everything. >> when adolph hitler declared ward on modern art ahead on "sunday morning." >> kevin spacey is revered star of stage, screen and internet. he has been shaking things up in portrayal of a schemer who turns the white house in to...
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does she support -- because the perception is that germany, which has a lot of trade with russia and particularly depends on energy on oil and gas would not support sanctions athe this point? >> she said she talked about how she is trying to move other countries in europe along. i think her country is -- at least she is closer to this. she did stand in unity with president obama talking about this. there does have to be an off ramp for russia to deescalate this. i don't think we choose to get in a war with the russians. we have to bolster nato. that is something they talked about, too. we have to find a way to achieve a pluralist noncorrupt government in ukraine and we have to support trade, i think so. >> so what is the off ramp? >> well, putin personally, certainly the information everybody seems to have is that there is no advantage to russia in having an all out war in ukraine. our leverage is our economy against him. we're strong. he's a gas station as john mccain said with a lot of corrupt people surrounding him. if we are going to avoid the sanctions we can avoid a worse outco
does she support -- because the perception is that germany, which has a lot of trade with russia and particularly depends on energy on oil and gas would not support sanctions athe this point? >> she said she talked about how she is trying to move other countries in europe along. i think her country is -- at least she is closer to this. she did stand in unity with president obama talking about this. there does have to be an off ramp for russia to deescalate this. i don't think we choose to...
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they were watching the life drone feed that was over it from africom in stuttgart, germany. if you have a secretary of state who's watching an embassy or a consulate being attacked do you not think there would maybe be interruption of debate prep. >> you would hate to think the president, we don't know this, that he would continue debate prep as a u.s. consulate comes under attack . if that's true, that's up setting. >> we had the uncle of sean smith, one of the four americans that lost their lives, on the show earlier. take a listen. >> the president and hillary clinton made a political decision as opposed to a security decision. and they should be ashamed of themselves. they should be ashamed that they actually had the unmitigated gull to go to -- before the caskets of my nephew and three other americans and lie to the mothers and fathers and widows of these brave americans. how shameful. how chilling is this? >> yes, it certainly is shameful. this alleged cover-up of this alleged cover-up, could it even be worse than what actually was unfolding? you know, if the president
they were watching the life drone feed that was over it from africom in stuttgart, germany. if you have a secretary of state who's watching an embassy or a consulate being attacked do you not think there would maybe be interruption of debate prep. >> you would hate to think the president, we don't know this, that he would continue debate prep as a u.s. consulate comes under attack . if that's true, that's up setting. >> we had the uncle of sean smith, one of the four americans that...
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and germany wouldn't spy on the u.s. that did not happen. there is still lingering tensions on that issue. >> jon karl with me in washington, thank you. >>> tonight the u.s. state department is warning americans against travel to one of kenya's tourist destinations. two explosions rocked a seaside town, one near a bus stop and the other at a resort bar. three people were killed and several jurd. the government blaming an al qaeda linked group. >>> in afghanistan tonight, dwindling hope of finding survivors after a devastating land slide. heavy rain sent part of a mountain down on top of a remote village. 255 people are confirmed dead but the toll could go as high as 700. rescuers and volunteers are digging with their own hands to try to reach the missing tonight. >>> back here at home this evening and to word of a deadly illness arriving in america for the first time. it's called mers and this evening the american infected is in quarantine and they're now looking for anyone the patient may have come in connect with. here
and germany wouldn't spy on the u.s. that did not happen. there is still lingering tensions on that issue. >> jon karl with me in washington, thank you. >>> tonight the u.s. state department is warning americans against travel to one of kenya's tourist destinations. two explosions rocked a seaside town, one near a bus stop and the other at a resort bar. three people were killed and several jurd. the government blaming an al qaeda linked group. >>> in afghanistan tonight,...
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bombers in missions over germany came home safely. >> mayhem was a bomb dore who escaped from the prison camp run by naziicism thosing prison guards. >> they slipped on lois infested straws and sowage in the area and solitary confinement and starvation and mental terror. >> a historic injustice was reversed. the eight remaining survivors out of the pow's imprisonned in switzerland were honored by the air force. >> it is the kind of courage we read about in books. their stories would not have been known without dwight ma er whose grandfather was imprisonned in the prison camp. >> to have it denied and irrespectivee?'Ñ of the treatm did not so many right. >> congress revised a 1985 law on pow medals and requiring prisoners to be held in enemy territory. lieutenant was moved. his son patrick accompanied him to the ceremony. >> every day for the rest of his life was a gift. he was never in a bad mood. >> that attitude and the grandsons pursuit of justice is the reason they finally received the recognition they were denied more than cent years. in the pentagon, jennifer griffin fox news. >>
bombers in missions over germany came home safely. >> mayhem was a bomb dore who escaped from the prison camp run by naziicism thosing prison guards. >> they slipped on lois infested straws and sowage in the area and solitary confinement and starvation and mental terror. >> a historic injustice was reversed. the eight remaining survivors out of the pow's imprisonned in switzerland were honored by the air force. >> it is the kind of courage we read about in books. their...
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and in germany. >> family members are outraged. they were hurt that these support centers are closing in by a jenning but at some point, an airline has to say, we don't have any more information, right, we have to do this or is this timing particularly bad? >> well, the timing is particularly bad because there is still for the answers where their loved ones are. but in most air crash accidents, certainly all the ones i have worked on, the airline usually closes down its support system and they have a care team assigned member assigned to each family. they cut that off at about day 45 and that's pretty standard and the reason is, that is in most cases, the case is moving on to a different stage, here because they don't have a plane or their loved ones, it's particularly bad timing. it's not unusual to close it down about this point. >> oh, boy, thanks so much to both of you. appreciate it. >> already. the other woman in this clipper owners scandal is talking. what she told barra walters about her relationship with donald sterling an
and in germany. >> family members are outraged. they were hurt that these support centers are closing in by a jenning but at some point, an airline has to say, we don't have any more information, right, we have to do this or is this timing particularly bad? >> well, the timing is particularly bad because there is still for the answers where their loved ones are. but in most air crash accidents, certainly all the ones i have worked on, the airline usually closes down its support...
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germany has some leverage in all this, doesn't it? it seems to be the country that has the most leverage. to what degree and why is that? >> the germans have a special relationship with the russians and have for -- since world war ii. this is an opportunity for chancellor merkel to influence the russians in their behavior in ukraine. the germans, like the rest of europe, care about stability in the heart of europe and ukraine is in the heart of europe, and the germans don't want to see violence, they don't want to see invasions, they don't want to see violations of sovereignty, of cross border military action. this is not in the german and european interest. the germans have a great opportunity to put pressure on the russians to change their behavior. >> and what in your view can or should the u.s. do at this juncture, what more can the u.s. do in an influential way, if possible? >> two things they can do, we can do. we can provide additional defensive equipment, supplies to the ukrainians as they act as they are now to reassert contr
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2012 stallone and timbers took the italian stallion to europe and after a successful two-year run in germany -- >> this is show number 56. did you know that? >> oh, my gosh. >> reporter: "rocky" is on broadway. >> still feels like we just recently opened. it's great. the set's still, like -- i guess looking kind of run down as it's supposed to. this is rocky's apartment right here. >> reporter: at 35 alex timbers is already a veteran of broadway drawing a claim for shows ranging from "bloody bloodsy andrew jackson" to the pee-wee herman show. still, timbers was an underdog to lead rocky's revival. when you were diving into this project, had you seen the "rocky" movies? >> no i hadn't seen it. >> reporter: how did you do that? how did you come prepared if you hadn't seen the movie? >> an asset. treat the script by a dramatic text. spent pictures pulling this is what boxers look like what philadelphia looks like. i came in and said, this is what my version of "rocky" based on your script would be. >> reporter: this week "rocky" was nominated for four tony a awards including best actor for his
2012 stallone and timbers took the italian stallion to europe and after a successful two-year run in germany -- >> this is show number 56. did you know that? >> oh, my gosh. >> reporter: "rocky" is on broadway. >> still feels like we just recently opened. it's great. the set's still, like -- i guess looking kind of run down as it's supposed to. this is rocky's apartment right here. >> reporter: at 35 alex timbers is already a veteran of broadway drawing a...
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germany's leaders are angry over n.s.a. eaves dropping on angela merkel's private phone calls. the chancellor saying there's room to cooperate. >> translation: there are differences of opinion over what balance to strike over surveillance to protect sit dispns and preinging the privacy -- citizens and protecting privacy. >> president obama was pawned to see the degree to -- pained to see the degree to which the edward snowden dislorms affected his relationship with germany. he tried to reassure. >> i have taken the unprecedented step of ordering our intelligence committees to take the rive si interests of non-u.s. persons into lent. >> the two-parted ways without hammering out a no-spy pore intelligence-sharing agreement. the president saying the u.s. doesn't make an arrangement with its closest partners. >> we are following developments throughout the morning and up to the minute information log on to aljazeera.com. >> u.s. troops on standby to find victims of a massive mudslide. on friday a village was wiped out, killing more than 2,000 people. a rescue operation is under way
germany's leaders are angry over n.s.a. eaves dropping on angela merkel's private phone calls. the chancellor saying there's room to cooperate. >> translation: there are differences of opinion over what balance to strike over surveillance to protect sit dispns and preinging the privacy -- citizens and protecting privacy. >> president obama was pawned to see the degree to -- pained to see the degree to which the edward snowden dislorms affected his relationship with germany. he tried...
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today, president obama, meeting with germany's angela merkel, took yet another shot at russian leader vladimir putin. >> what can't be taken into account is his suggestion that he has the right to violate the sovereignty of another country. that's not acceptable. >> reporter: but here on the streets, the anger is aimed at the united states. we asked this leader who he blames for violence. his answer doesn't need any translation. >> america, america. >> reporter: even as i'm talking, there are groups of armed men roaming the city. and the big question now is, will russian troops invade? diane? >> thank you so much. >>> and now, the breaking story from the man at the center of the nba scandal. 80-year-old donald sterling breaking his silence about his taped comments that earned him a lifetime ban. ryan has this story. >> well, speaking to a magazine about his former companion, he said, i wish i had just paid her off. and also expressed remorse for the way this controversy has unfolded. all this happening as the nba is moving forward on plans to vote on his ouster as owner of the clipper
today, president obama, meeting with germany's angela merkel, took yet another shot at russian leader vladimir putin. >> what can't be taken into account is his suggestion that he has the right to violate the sovereignty of another country. that's not acceptable. >> reporter: but here on the streets, the anger is aimed at the united states. we asked this leader who he blames for violence. his answer doesn't need any translation. >> america, america. >> reporter: even as...
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. >> it's kind of amazing, because obviously germany is the biggest trading partner for russia, and german companies have been lobbying hard. maybe they want the sanctions early so they can get them over with early. here. the white house says the sanctions have already had a significant effect on russia's economy. true or not, michelle? >> you really have to look at it from two senses. for weeks the administration has been citing things like the weakening ruble, weakening russian stock markets. well, we talk to people who really know international markets and that was going on already. and also, it's really hard to separate out what problems would have been the results of russia's own actions in ukraine and what would be because of sanctions. but they have hurt, absolutely, the people and the entities targeted. for example, banks that are now essentially shut out of doing business in the dollar and the euro. >> all right. thank you very much, michelle kosinski reporting live from the white house tonight. >>> in the meantime tonight, malaysian officials say they may send a ship to investiga
. >> it's kind of amazing, because obviously germany is the biggest trading partner for russia, and german companies have been lobbying hard. maybe they want the sanctions early so they can get them over with early. here. the white house says the sanctions have already had a significant effect on russia's economy. true or not, michelle? >> you really have to look at it from two senses. for weeks the administration has been citing things like the weakening ruble, weakening russian...
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"the washington post" quotes him saying he's embarrassed that germany's failure of leadership. he's already made clear that's how he feels about the obama administration refusal to provide defensive weapons. the u.n. security council held its 13th emergency session on the crisis. this one called by russia, which blames the violence on kiev and its western enablers. >>> up next, the new jobs numbers and what they tell us. fox 45 in baltimore with clean up following the collapse of a sidewalk and retaining wall wednesday after it came down after heavy rains over the past 24 hours. take a look at that. >>> fox 31 in louisville with preparations for saturday's 140th kentucky derby. about the timers on the runs for the roses will be getting a little less back if they win this year. this is a live look at new york from fox 5, the big story there ton, a subway derailment in queens that sent four people to the hospital with very serious injuries. six subway cars of a manhattan brooklyn bound express train went off the tracks this morning but remained upright. that's outside the beltway
"the washington post" quotes him saying he's embarrassed that germany's failure of leadership. he's already made clear that's how he feels about the obama administration refusal to provide defensive weapons. the u.n. security council held its 13th emergency session on the crisis. this one called by russia, which blames the violence on kiev and its western enablers. >>> up next, the new jobs numbers and what they tell us. fox 45 in baltimore with clean up following the...
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we said many times germany pays the real price check lyeconomic sector sanctions. the way it's framed now, previously russia had a negative obligation to avoid sector-wide sanctions. the west said do not invade ukraine, if you do, we'll have them. they have a positive obligation. they have to stop disrupting the situation on the ground which is arguably a tougher thing to get them to do. >> ambassador baer, you're there and you represent the united states at the organization for security and cooperation in europe. do you really believe, given the current circumstances, the violence that's going on, the deaths, the bloodshed, the warfare, if you will, at least in a preliminary stage, there can be free and fair elections in ukraine on may 25th? >> i do, wolf. you know, the violence or the confrontations have been fairly local iced. they're obviously in a number of places but they're absolutely necessary. part of the message all along has been that there are certainly grievance all over the country. everybody in ukraine has been robbed blind by the yanokovych governme
we said many times germany pays the real price check lyeconomic sector sanctions. the way it's framed now, previously russia had a negative obligation to avoid sector-wide sanctions. the west said do not invade ukraine, if you do, we'll have them. they have a positive obligation. they have to stop disrupting the situation on the ground which is arguably a tougher thing to get them to do. >> ambassador baer, you're there and you represent the united states at the organization for security...
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they really wanted to show a sense of unity with germany. really the united states needs to be allied with europe over moving forward with a broader sanctions regime. you heard the president raised the specter of doing sectoral regime going against finance and against the defense industry, the arms industry there. the issue for europe is, of course, the concern about -- about the impact on energy supplies, russian energy supplies, whether or not any broader sanctions could hurt their ability to their use and import of all these russian oil and natural gas supplies. that's going to be the question going forward for them. while they showed unity on the issue of ukraine, of course, germany and the united states are clearly not on the same page yet when it comes over to the national security agency, the domestic surveillance program and what came to light over the edward snowden revelations over spying on angela merkel themselves. the president used the line we're not -- we're not aligned yet on this issue about whether there would be no spy agr
they really wanted to show a sense of unity with germany. really the united states needs to be allied with europe over moving forward with a broader sanctions regime. you heard the president raised the specter of doing sectoral regime going against finance and against the defense industry, the arms industry there. the issue for europe is, of course, the concern about -- about the impact on energy supplies, russian energy supplies, whether or not any broader sanctions could hurt their ability to...
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and germany on nsa surveillance. president obama also faced a question from the international press about tuesday's botched oklahoma execution. on ukraine both leaders seemed amenable to the possibility of further sanctions that take direct aim at key sectors of the russian economy. sanction that is could potentially damage a sluggish european economy as well. president obama said it all depends on how deeply russia interferes with ukraine in the lead-up to its elections later this month. >> if, in fact, we see the disruptions and the destabilization continuing so severely that it impedes elections on may 25th, we will not have a choice but to move forward with additional more severe sanctions. >> for her part chancellor merkel told the associated press -- the assembled press that, "the post-war order has been put into question by the actions of russia and vladimir putinin." it comes as ukraine has attempted to take back one key city, leaving at least two dead in the fighting and separatists have downed at least two
and germany on nsa surveillance. president obama also faced a question from the international press about tuesday's botched oklahoma execution. on ukraine both leaders seemed amenable to the possibility of further sanctions that take direct aim at key sectors of the russian economy. sanction that is could potentially damage a sluggish european economy as well. president obama said it all depends on how deeply russia interferes with ukraine in the lead-up to its elections later this month....
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there are killers and would be killers in australia and finland, germany, brazil. who have used columbine as an inspiration. and it's all that publicity that columbine got. the columbine killers they decided they wanted to feel important. and they sought revenge. revenge against their classmates who bullied them. maybe against all of society. and it seems to me that is the motive in this case, as well. >> i know -- i know it's revenge, i know a lot of it is notoriety. how could one not know about columbine even if you were a kid when that happened? i've heard a lot of folks say we, the media, we the public shouldn't be uttering the suspects' names because that then, of course, raises them to a level and elevates them to a level we shouldn't be doing. but do you think that would take away, you know, and some of these other potential school shooters' minds. the troubled minds, the intent to kill? >> first of all, the reporters have a duty to tell the public. and also, the idea of making them into big shot celebrities, putting them on the cover of celebrity magazines.
there are killers and would be killers in australia and finland, germany, brazil. who have used columbine as an inspiration. and it's all that publicity that columbine got. the columbine killers they decided they wanted to feel important. and they sought revenge. revenge against their classmates who bullied them. maybe against all of society. and it seems to me that is the motive in this case, as well. >> i know -- i know it's revenge, i know a lot of it is notoriety. how could one not...
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said that robert lovell who was testifying didn't know what he was talking about because he was in germany at the time. >> alan? >> you don't think that members of congress will find out more information now that you can have general petraeus and hillary clinton sitting next to each other -- >> how many more investigations -- do you know in the bush administration, i know you hate when i bring up bush -- after 9/11, there were 13 different attacks at embassies and consulates resulting in hundreds of deaths. i didn't hear a word about this. why is there a double standard about this president? >> you shouldn't be afraid of the truth. and if this investigation, this select committee can uncover the truth, then you should welcome it and let the chips fall where they may. listen, krauthammer is right. think about the people that went to jail over covering up a third-rate burglary at the watergate building in washington, d.c. four people died. it's a very big deal. >> benghazi is a tragedy, it's not a scandal. >> oh, it's a scandal. >> when we learn more information with the select committee. >>
said that robert lovell who was testifying didn't know what he was talking about because he was in germany at the time. >> alan? >> you don't think that members of congress will find out more information now that you can have general petraeus and hillary clinton sitting next to each other -- >> how many more investigations -- do you know in the bush administration, i know you hate when i bring up bush -- after 9/11, there were 13 different attacks at embassies and consulates...
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the chancellor of germany. topping the agenda, threat of new sanctions against russia if that country doesn't stop meddling in eastern ukraine. they are live with the latest. >> the president is meeting with chancellor merkel for the first time since she learned about the listen nothing on telephone calls. the emphasis was on ukraine with the separatist battling the police. mr. obama said the u.s. and europe are focusing tougher sanctions. he seemed to rule out russia's energy sector. >> energy flows from russia to europe. those continue in the midst of the cold war. and the height of the cold war. and so the idea that you are going to turn up the tap on all russian oil or natural gas exports is unrealistic. >> arizona senator john mccain thinks that the president should provide weapons to the ukranians and nothing that the u.s. could provide would have them stand up to the russian. and they have strong tees to russian industry. germany leaders yesterday. they are governed by the industrial complex and might as
the chancellor of germany. topping the agenda, threat of new sanctions against russia if that country doesn't stop meddling in eastern ukraine. they are live with the latest. >> the president is meeting with chancellor merkel for the first time since she learned about the listen nothing on telephone calls. the emphasis was on ukraine with the separatist battling the police. mr. obama said the u.s. and europe are focusing tougher sanctions. he seemed to rule out russia's energy sector....
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. >>> other news, president obama and germany's leader facing some serious questions today on foreign policy flash points including the crisis in ukraine. the president just wrapped up a joint news conference with the german chancellor angela merkel. the u.s. is warning of tougher sanctions against russia over ukraine. the president saying the preference is a diplomatic solution but if that doesn't happen the next step is more sanctions. he says he understands the concerns of some european countries but he's confident the u.s. and the european union will stand together. >> the goal is not to punish russia. the goal is to give them an incentive to choose the better course. and that is to resolve these issues diplomatically. and i think we are united on that front. within europe, within the eu, i'm sure there has to be extensive consultations. you've got 28 countries and some are more vulnerable than others to potential russian retaliation. we have to take those into account. not every country is going to be in exactly the same place. what has been remarkable is the degree to which all
. >>> other news, president obama and germany's leader facing some serious questions today on foreign policy flash points including the crisis in ukraine. the president just wrapped up a joint news conference with the german chancellor angela merkel. the u.s. is warning of tougher sanctions against russia over ukraine. the president saying the preference is a diplomatic solution but if that doesn't happen the next step is more sanctions. he says he understands the concerns of some...
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and germany united and sent another stern warning to moscow. >> we are united in our determination to impose costs on russia for its actions as ukrainian forces move to restore order in eastern ukraine, it is obvious to the world that these russian-backed groups are not peaceful protesters but heavily armed militants receiving significant support from russia. >> times are also tense with ukrainian army launching the first major assault on separatist strong holds in the east of that country. a spokesman for putin called the move a criminal act. nbc news chief white house correspondent chuck todd, also host of "the daily rundown" joins us. how critical was it for the president to get merkel on board with sanctions? >> reporter: it's interesting, that is a glass is half full way of looking at it. here's what clearly they agree to. they have the next deadline that they've set to decide whether to do another round of sanctions and that is the may 25th election. you heard the president essentially say if russia destabilizing the situation, makes -- tries to mess with this election process,
and germany united and sent another stern warning to moscow. >> we are united in our determination to impose costs on russia for its actions as ukrainian forces move to restore order in eastern ukraine, it is obvious to the world that these russian-backed groups are not peaceful protesters but heavily armed militants receiving significant support from russia. >> times are also tense with ukrainian army launching the first major assault on separatist strong holds in the east of that...
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germany has been a reluctant partner here. it's not just the corporations that have deep ties with russia. it's also oil and gas. germany gets one-third of its oil, one-third of its gas from russia. they have a lot to lose with tougher sanctions. >> thanks very much. we will have more on this sunday on "this week". >>> let's go to amy with today's other top stories. >> good morning, everyone. >>> and we begin with wall street, reacting to nice that the economy is picking up steam. 288,000 jobs created in april, the best in two years, and helped drive down the unemployment rate to 6.3%. the lowest in five years. and more americans dropped out of the labor force. >>> and a terrifying crash in south korea. one train crashed into another, throwing it off the tracks, injuring 170 people. passengers were told to stay inside the train. most of them ignored that order. they forced the doors open to escape. >>> also breaking overnight, two alaska troopers have been shot and killed on duty, including one who appeared on a popular cable
germany has been a reluctant partner here. it's not just the corporations that have deep ties with russia. it's also oil and gas. germany gets one-third of its oil, one-third of its gas from russia. they have a lot to lose with tougher sanctions. >> thanks very much. we will have more on this sunday on "this week". >>> let's go to amy with today's other top stories. >> good morning, everyone. >>> and we begin with wall street, reacting to nice that the...
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right now germany is not totally there. i thought it was significant when angela merkel, the chancellor said that she could get to that third place, that third level which would mean targeting sectors, but more work has to be done. that's critical here. president putin understands there are some breaks in that western armor here, including between germany and the u.s. she's coming with a brief from businesses in germany that still want to do business in russia, so that's very tough for president obama. and this spying issue, you know, it's very tough to talk about spying on an ally. the president saying that traditional expectations were tipped over because of technology. in other words, we got better at spying and we used it even against our friends. that's going to be, i'm sure, a pretty delicate conversation as they move forward. >> fair to say those were a couple of awkward moments during that news conference. let me bring in chuck todd, white house correspondent and political director. chuck, when we talk about sanctio
right now germany is not totally there. i thought it was significant when angela merkel, the chancellor said that she could get to that third place, that third level which would mean targeting sectors, but more work has to be done. that's critical here. president putin understands there are some breaks in that western armor here, including between germany and the u.s. she's coming with a brief from businesses in germany that still want to do business in russia, so that's very tough for...
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it is also important to note that germany has a lot of economic ties with russia, and the question is whether you put more economic pressure on that country and actually affect the economic relations between germany and russia. so, a lot to think about here especially since big german companies, volkswagen to name one, have a huge stake in russia. and the more pressure you put on, the harder it is for those companies to continue to do business very well and thrive, carol. >> joe johns reporting live from the white house this morning. thank you. >>> still to come in the "newsroom," tensions flare and ukraine's military mobilizes. we'll look at a new offensive that could push the country closer to widespread fighting. [announcer] play close-good and close. help keep teeth clean and breath fresh with beneful healthy smile food. with special crunchy kibbles and great taste, it's a happy way to a healthy smile. beneful healthy smile food and snacks. the average person will probably eat something or drink something that is acidic on a daily basis. those acids made over time wear the enamel.
it is also important to note that germany has a lot of economic ties with russia, and the question is whether you put more economic pressure on that country and actually affect the economic relations between germany and russia. so, a lot to think about here especially since big german companies, volkswagen to name one, have a huge stake in russia. and the more pressure you put on, the harder it is for those companies to continue to do business very well and thrive, carol. >> joe johns...
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we're likely, i assume, to get a sense of whether or not germany and the u.s. see eye to eye on sanctions. we know german,is chris critical to whatever the eu will do. >> reporter: absolutely. the administration has been trying to pull along the european allies. the sanctions they imposed this week intended to impose last week, but did so on monday. we're closer to the point at this the broader, more serious, more dangerous for european and american businesses sectoral sanctioning get called for. it is pretty clear, despite this call for russia's call for this emergency meeting, that they haven't had much interest in diplomacy so far. they discarded the agreement with lavrov and kerry almost as soon as it was struck a couple weeks ago. so i think this is -- the situation is getting more grave and more worrisome. i think that may be why merkel and obama have not come out yet. >> so far there's been some abstinence involving the oil industry. brent crude, in the futures market, i'm wondering if you think we are nearing the point where we will see oil come into pl
we're likely, i assume, to get a sense of whether or not germany and the u.s. see eye to eye on sanctions. we know german,is chris critical to whatever the eu will do. >> reporter: absolutely. the administration has been trying to pull along the european allies. the sanctions they imposed this week intended to impose last week, but did so on monday. we're closer to the point at this the broader, more serious, more dangerous for european and american businesses sectoral sanctioning get...
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. >> president obama will meet with the president of germany and they are expected to discuss a dispute over united states intelligence-gearing, this is her first visit to the white house since reports revealed that the n.s.a. had intercepted phone calls involving her and other german officials. >>> prince william and prince harry are in the united states. >> harry! harry! >> yikes. node to warn people to cover their ears. screaming fans waited after they join friends for a barbecue in downtown memphis in town for a wedding. prince william took his wife as his date and prince harry is expected to attend girlfriend, -- attend without the girlfriend. they recently broke up. >> here is mike and the forecast. >> you were screaming, too, truth be told. >> every time when you walk in the building, mike. >> screaming hike "get away, get away." it is hot. but it will be cooler. we are 85 today but back near the 73 average tomorrow and also on sunday. cooler on monday at 69. then we climb back wednesday into thursday. temperatures will be above average. around the state, we are still around 92 i
. >> president obama will meet with the president of germany and they are expected to discuss a dispute over united states intelligence-gearing, this is her first visit to the white house since reports revealed that the n.s.a. had intercepted phone calls involving her and other german officials. >>> prince william and prince harry are in the united states. >> harry! harry! >> yikes. node to warn people to cover their ears. screaming fans waited after they join friends...
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germany is russia's's largest trading partner in the eu. they have more economic interest in the u.s. and its owing to be hard to pressure russia and a major way unless the europeans are willing to play. host: let me share what jack lew told members of congress when it came to sanctions and at russia and the wealthy individuals linked to president putin. [video clip] >> if you look at the impact on russia's economy, it is misleading to look at what happens day by day. you have to look over the period of time since russia went into crimea and since we have imposed sanctions. there has been a substantial deterioration in rush's already weak economy. we see and the stock exchange on the exchange rate. they were downgraded to one notch above junk. what the rationale on the bond rating was in part with sanctions. how do we proceed in a careful way? president clinton has acknowledged -- resident pu -- president putin has a knowledge of the sanctions are creating pressure. we need to keep our options open. we are prepared to take more action and w
germany is russia's's largest trading partner in the eu. they have more economic interest in the u.s. and its owing to be hard to pressure russia and a major way unless the europeans are willing to play. host: let me share what jack lew told members of congress when it came to sanctions and at russia and the wealthy individuals linked to president putin. [video clip] >> if you look at the impact on russia's economy, it is misleading to look at what happens day by day. you have to look...
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germany gets a third of its oil and gas from russia and some of germany's best-known companies, volkswagen for one, have huge stakes in russia. so any type of sanction has a potential economic blowback and it's just a sign of how the west has a limited toolbox in dealing with the situation in ukraine, chris. >> all right, joe, thank you very much for the reporting. >>> let's bring in cnn military analyst james "spider" marks a retired major generally and former commanding general of the u.s. army intillgence center. general, thank you for joining us. let's leave the politics aside and deal with the urgency on the ground. what do you believe the situation is? who is ukraine fighting? what do you think the stakes are? >> fighting two elements really. you do have pro-russian separatists that are in east ukraine, but they're being supported directly, not only in terms of what i would call over-the-horizon support, weapons support, but also they have russian forces are on the ground instigating this and these are the folks we've seen routinely that have unmarked uniforms and have their face mas
germany gets a third of its oil and gas from russia and some of germany's best-known companies, volkswagen for one, have huge stakes in russia. so any type of sanction has a potential economic blowback and it's just a sign of how the west has a limited toolbox in dealing with the situation in ukraine, chris. >> all right, joe, thank you very much for the reporting. >>> let's bring in cnn military analyst james "spider" marks a retired major generally and former...
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and germany have tried to apply pressure on russia to try to de-escalate the crisis in ukraine, the u.s. taking the lead on sanctions, while chancellor merkel has tried to use her closer relationship with russian president vladimir putin to resolve the crisis, but it's not clear whether those closer ties are helping. in a phone conversation that the two leaders had on thursday, putin told merkel that he wants to see ukrainian troops pull out of the southeastern part of their own country. white house press secretary jay carney called that suggestion preposterous. now, the white house expects both leaders, both president obama and angela merkel, to talk about another round of sanctions against russia. that next round would likely be targeted at russia's economy, key sectors of the russian economy, such as its banking and energy sectors, but that would hurt the german economy as well. so, expect that question to come up at a news conference with president obama and chancellor merkel later today. also, one other big question to expect would be about those revelations that the u.s. has been
and germany have tried to apply pressure on russia to try to de-escalate the crisis in ukraine, the u.s. taking the lead on sanctions, while chancellor merkel has tried to use her closer relationship with russian president vladimir putin to resolve the crisis, but it's not clear whether those closer ties are helping. in a phone conversation that the two leaders had on thursday, putin told merkel that he wants to see ukrainian troops pull out of the southeastern part of their own country. white...
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. >> the operations center in germany. you were in the room. >> yes. >> you were able to see, hear, feel, understand what was going on in that room? >> we worked toward understanding, yes, sir. >> were you ever interviewed by the accountability review board? >> no, sir. >> your primary responsibility was to try -- "j two was focused on attribution, that attacks became a german will very soon after the event." what do you believe they were attributable to? >> an islamist extremist group. >> al qaeda? >> we felt it was ansaria. >> affiliated with al qaeda. >> yes. >> aqim, were they involved? >> aas is who we looked at. >> how quickly did you come to the conclusion that you believed there were al qaeda affiliates or al qaeda themselves involved engaged in the attack? >> very soon in the early hours of the activity. >> was it a video? >> no, sir. >> did it spark a protest? >> no, sir. >> i want to get the facts at a time. the cia station chief is quoted as saying, "not not an escalation a protest." would you agree or disagree
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general lovell was in germany awaiting orders to strike at the terrorists, orders that never came. >> what we did know quite early on is that this was a hostile action. this was no demonstration gone terribly awry. to the point of what happened, the facts led to the conclusion of a terrorist attack. the afri-con j 2 was focused on attribution. the attacks became attributable very soon after the event. >> so that means the u.s. military, the cia on the ground in libya, and pretty much everyone else directly involved with the benghazi attack knew it was not a spontaneous demonstration within hours. yet, as we proved yesterday, the obama administration created a fiction that the attack was a reaction to an anti-muslim videotape. the cover was blown off that deception this week when a memo by white house advisor ben rhodes was released through the freedom of information act. the memo clearly says that ambassador susan rice was prepped to tell the world on television that a videotape incited the murders in benghazi. incredibly, incredibly, even after the memo became public, white house spo
general lovell was in germany awaiting orders to strike at the terrorists, orders that never came. >> what we did know quite early on is that this was a hostile action. this was no demonstration gone terribly awry. to the point of what happened, the facts led to the conclusion of a terrorist attack. the afri-con j 2 was focused on attribution. the attacks became attributable very soon after the event. >> so that means the u.s. military, the cia on the ground in libya, and pretty...
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. >> i think we did have resources in place in italy, spain, and germany. and if we didn 't, we should have. and one take aways from this, is we need to eva evaluate our abiy to respond to a crisis anywhere in the world on short notice. a lot of people say this is about sticking it to the white house, or hillary clinton. no this is investigation, also serves to make sure that men and women who serve in our dip that diplomatic corps is feel seiche, like they have washington d.c. behind home, when they are out and hostile territory risking their lives for american interests. lou: congressman and congresswoman thank you so much. >> thank you, lou. >> absolutely. lou: time for a look at last night's on-line poll results. would you be more or less likely to vote for a former president's family memr. 87% said no. remember national average in most recent polling was 70% saying no this audience voted 87%. 13% of you said, well why not. i guess. at least you said yes. vote tonight, as we sort of try tto narrow in on this, do you believe jeb bush and hillary clinton
. >> i think we did have resources in place in italy, spain, and germany. and if we didn 't, we should have. and one take aways from this, is we need to eva evaluate our abiy to respond to a crisis anywhere in the world on short notice. a lot of people say this is about sticking it to the white house, or hillary clinton. no this is investigation, also serves to make sure that men and women who serve in our dip that diplomatic corps is feel seiche, like they have washington d.c. behind...
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intelligence director for the africa command testified that seven hour noose the benghazi assault in germany, they knew there was no connection to a protest or an internet video. >> it was early on in the evening of september 11th. >> before 3:15 a.m. >> absolutely. >> within hours, sources tell fox a target list was assembled and lovell testified a terrorist group with known ties to al qaeda was blamed. >> it was -- we felt it was -- >> lovell's testimony is consistent with the september 12th e-mail from state department official beth jones to secretary of state hillary clinton's closest aides, including sheryl mills, that the libyan ambassador was told -- was responsible. what's been overlooked is hours later on 10:00 p.m. september 11th even before the attack was over mrs. clinton sent out a press release directly linking the video to the benghazi violence. while mrs. clinton waes statement was out of sync with the intelligence it was reinforced three daze later by the ben rhodes e-mail which critics say intended to shape the public discussion of a terrorist attack. lovell testified that
intelligence director for the africa command testified that seven hour noose the benghazi assault in germany, they knew there was no connection to a protest or an internet video. >> it was early on in the evening of september 11th. >> before 3:15 a.m. >> absolutely. >> within hours, sources tell fox a target list was assembled and lovell testified a terrorist group with known ties to al qaeda was blamed. >> it was -- we felt it was -- >> lovell's testimony is...
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italy or germany, didn't have a forward basing. they were hours and hours away. that's one of the takeaways. have we improved security at these consulates and embassies? have they met that obligation since? >> that's an ongoing question and something that the administration has conceded and their independent review conceded that security was totally lacking, was not -- was not up to it. again, the reality is, not only the question of whether this was an intelligence failure, whether on 9/11 of all days, the government was not appropriately prepared for the prospect of a terror attack. >> that is a seriously -- >> system a question that i think -- >> strong criticism. >> when this gets into the political arena, you go off in lots of different directions about who's tough on television, who's soft on 200terrorism. we can focus on areas of conflict that arise and get to the bottom of the conflicts. to me today the question is as you look at this e-mail, it is clearly an attempt by a foreign policy aide to show the president in the bes
italy or germany, didn't have a forward basing. they were hours and hours away. that's one of the takeaways. have we improved security at these consulates and embassies? have they met that obligation since? >> that's an ongoing question and something that the administration has conceded and their independent review conceded that security was totally lacking, was not -- was not up to it. again, the reality is, not only the question of whether this was an intelligence failure, whether on...
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lovell, top intelligence official in the region at the time who monitored the results from his post in germany testified before the house oversight committee and he said there should have been a military response. no one thought a video had anything to do with the attack. the attack that left four americans did including ambassador chris stevens. >> benghazi in 2012, this is the most serious of the themes. there are many sayings in the military. one saying that rings most true, you fight the way you train and in benghazi we did. many with first-hand knowledge have recounted heroism displayed bit brave americans in benghazi that night. they fought the way they trained. that's in the record. outside of libya there were discussions that churned on what we should do. these elements also fought the way they were trained. specifically the predisposition inneragency influence had the military structure in the spirit of expeditionary government support waiting for a request for assistance from the state department. there are counts of time, space and capability, discussions of the question, could we h
lovell, top intelligence official in the region at the time who monitored the results from his post in germany testified before the house oversight committee and he said there should have been a military response. no one thought a video had anything to do with the attack. the attack that left four americans did including ambassador chris stevens. >> benghazi in 2012, this is the most serious of the themes. there are many sayings in the military. one saying that rings most true, you fight...
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you know, in eastern europe before the fall of communism, people lived in east germany constantly looking over their shoulder, wondering, which one of their neighbors was reporting on them. which am radplace had a microph? there were there hidden cameras? and people fought to get out of that. people lived under incredibly stress for that. and now we don't have that imposed on us by the government, although the nsa, notwithstanding, but we are rushing toward that voluntarily and delightfully, and maybe it's time we step back and say, do we really want to live in this technological panopticon? let's forget about donald sterling. put ourselves there. how many times a day do you have a private conversation that you really don't want to have recorded and then rebroadcast? and the technological element of this is what makes it really scary. we've always lived in a world where you could be talking to a trusted confidante, and they might repeat what you said. but that is markedly different from having yourself recorded or videotaped everywhere. and we are giving it away voluntarily. and maybe it'
you know, in eastern europe before the fall of communism, people lived in east germany constantly looking over their shoulder, wondering, which one of their neighbors was reporting on them. which am radplace had a microph? there were there hidden cameras? and people fought to get out of that. people lived under incredibly stress for that. and now we don't have that imposed on us by the government, although the nsa, notwithstanding, but we are rushing toward that voluntarily and delightfully,...
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bill: the general was in stuttgart, germany on the night of the attack. what he was able to see in realtime was the message traffic from libya to washington. we expect them to testify there was nothing that message traffic about a protest and nothing about the video. let's listen to congressman jason chaffetz who gave as you present violate yesterday. >> they took a country in libya and turned it into a failed state. one of the people that will be in that room is somebody who is in charge of a lot of the intelligence that they were gleaning in libya. we are going to talk about libya, where it's going, how it's become that failed state. >> reporter: if he testifies he saw nothing in the message traffic about a protest or video that will be significant. as part of our ongoing reporting at fox news we referred to a report september 17, our sources on the ground in libya also said there was no protest and fox received considerable pushback for that reporting. bill: i see darrell is a gaveling the hearing to an opening. let's rinse as this hearing begins. >> .
bill: the general was in stuttgart, germany on the night of the attack. what he was able to see in realtime was the message traffic from libya to washington. we expect them to testify there was nothing that message traffic about a protest and nothing about the video. let's listen to congressman jason chaffetz who gave as you present violate yesterday. >> they took a country in libya and turned it into a failed state. one of the people that will be in that room is somebody who is in charge...
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today we're going to hear from a general, air force general who was there in germany as this was going down in the room. we're going to hear from him, what was happening in that room? were the facts as we knew them? and the white house just can't keep saying we were dealing with the best intelligence we had. oh, yeah? what was that intelligence? what did the military think was going down? >> so we had talking points ahod mike morell said i had no idea where that word tape came from. but you also have him dealing with offering a his services to help work something outs with the state department. that's also in these documents. >> he said that he was worried it would be embarrassing to the state department. that doesn't sound like somebody who is trying to get out the truth about what's going on in benghazi. you would the station chief himself say it had nothing to do with a video and that that led to some sort of mob that got out of control. >> one thing, you guys got to help gregory hicks 'cause his career is all screwed up because believe. but today, you're going to talk to general lo
today we're going to hear from a general, air force general who was there in germany as this was going down in the room. we're going to hear from him, what was happening in that room? were the facts as we knew them? and the white house just can't keep saying we were dealing with the best intelligence we had. oh, yeah? what was that intelligence? what did the military think was going down? >> so we had talking points ahod mike morell said i had no idea where that word tape came from. but...
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clause begun a meant that when russia exports gas into the eu, the first country of transit, let's say germany or ukraine or other eu countries could not -- they could not dictate you may not pass this on without my permission to another country. what it allowed it to do is a minute a gas comes and it is eu gas and can be transferred further. we talked about reversing the flows from poland to hungary from slovakia into ukraine. that would not have been possible in 2000 nine because of the regulatory structure that was in place. i working with europe to get the regulatory structure there, making some investments and getting them to make investments in infrastructure, they are less reliant today. as russia will continue to be a supplier into europe emma there is more we can do together to make sure that that reliance is diminished and quite significantly. fors it a pipe dream americans who see themselves in anything like the near future europeng natural gas to and would that have any effect on our domestic market or do we have so much that it would ,imply mean a new market trades reduction in th
clause begun a meant that when russia exports gas into the eu, the first country of transit, let's say germany or ukraine or other eu countries could not -- they could not dictate you may not pass this on without my permission to another country. what it allowed it to do is a minute a gas comes and it is eu gas and can be transferred further. we talked about reversing the flows from poland to hungary from slovakia into ukraine. that would not have been possible in 2000 nine because of the...